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		<title>By: leel6391</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time is an imaginary concept
Time does not exist. It is an imaginary concept involving a method for measurement of quantities. Time does not spend. But events take place one after the other or with respect to another sequence. We count number of events with respect to spins of the standard object, &quot;earth&quot;.

If everything that exist in the universe maintain a state of cessation there will be no time involved. To introduce the factor &quot;time&quot; we should have at least one moving object. 

Let there be an observer stay at an absolute location, in space. So he will see the entire universe is in motion. Earth is spinning around itself, while our galaxy is moving in another path. Each spin of earth around itself is labeled as a day on earth.

Therefore, we can create a link for an object moving in the universe, in terms of distance traveled by it, in relation to spins of earth. Earth&#039;s spins are dimensionless, yet having a direction only, without acceleration. This link is called time.
Time 0 (zero) was assumed as 2000 spins backwards on date 2000 January 01, 0.00 Hr. at Greenwich, according to convention. Also there are other conventions for measurements of time and fixing the occurrence of events such as Lunar calendar, Persian calendar, Hindus calendar, Hebrew calendar etc.

Therefore, we have given a meaning for the sequence of events taken place, and to compare the duration and intervals using the &quot;Time&quot;concept, to compare the event in sequences. Time represents the idea of motion, with reference to spins of earth.
Thus time does not exist and if we imagine a factor called time we have given it a beginning yet end has not confirmed by ourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is an imaginary concept<br />
Time does not exist. It is an imaginary concept involving a method for measurement of quantities. Time does not spend. But events take place one after the other or with respect to another sequence. We count number of events with respect to spins of the standard object, &#8220;earth&#8221;.</p>
<p>If everything that exist in the universe maintain a state of cessation there will be no time involved. To introduce the factor &#8220;time&#8221; we should have at least one moving object. </p>
<p>Let there be an observer stay at an absolute location, in space. So he will see the entire universe is in motion. Earth is spinning around itself, while our galaxy is moving in another path. Each spin of earth around itself is labeled as a day on earth.</p>
<p>Therefore, we can create a link for an object moving in the universe, in terms of distance traveled by it, in relation to spins of earth. Earth&#8217;s spins are dimensionless, yet having a direction only, without acceleration. This link is called time.<br />
Time 0 (zero) was assumed as 2000 spins backwards on date 2000 January 01, 0.00 Hr. at Greenwich, according to convention. Also there are other conventions for measurements of time and fixing the occurrence of events such as Lunar calendar, Persian calendar, Hindus calendar, Hebrew calendar etc.</p>
<p>Therefore, we have given a meaning for the sequence of events taken place, and to compare the duration and intervals using the &#8220;Time&#8221;concept, to compare the event in sequences. Time represents the idea of motion, with reference to spins of earth.<br />
Thus time does not exist and if we imagine a factor called time we have given it a beginning yet end has not confirmed by ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Ep. 228: Giovanni Cassini &#124; Astronomy Cast</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ep. 228: Giovanni Cassini &#124; Astronomy Cast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Speed of Light Mountaintop experiment &#8211; Skulls of Stars [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Nuj</title>
		<link>http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/03/21/relativity-measuring-the-speed-of-light/#comment-11714</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@G H Jadhav

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHRK6ojWdtU]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@G H Jadhav</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/03/21/relativity-measuring-the-speed-of-light/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/HHRK6ojWdtU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: G H Jadhav</title>
		<link>http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/03/21/relativity-measuring-the-speed-of-light/#comment-4034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G H Jadhav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are forced to beleive the speed of light is constant and is independent of the relative motion between source and observer. But we could not understand it. I have framed one experiment which will show the speed of light is not constant with repsect to different observers. To built the setup a sophisticated instrumentation centre (and experts) is required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are forced to beleive the speed of light is constant and is independent of the relative motion between source and observer. But we could not understand it. I have framed one experiment which will show the speed of light is not constant with repsect to different observers. To built the setup a sophisticated instrumentation centre (and experts) is required.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for this great article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this great article!</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Isles</title>
		<link>http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/03/21/relativity-measuring-the-speed-of-light/#comment-2518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vincent Isles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good discussion. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good discussion. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: sunwukong</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gravity (not gravitational waves) is the fastest thing in the universe.
Light speed is dependant on source &amp; target (e.g., dopler) as shown in 1676, before the internet and Einstein.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravity (not gravitational waves) is the fastest thing in the universe.<br />
Light speed is dependant on source &amp; target (e.g., dopler) as shown in 1676, before the internet and Einstein.</p>
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		<title>By: skullsinthestars</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeffrey:  You&#039;ll have to clarify what you&#039;re asking; I&#039;m not quite sure what you&#039;re getting at.  If you&#039;re asking whether the results of a previous experiment which gave 189 kmiles/s is &quot;wrong&quot;, given what we know now, I would say not exactly: in physics all experimental results have a degree of uncertainty.  189 kmiles/s is accurate to two significant figures, i.e. the &#039;180&#039; part of the estimate is correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey:  You&#8217;ll have to clarify what you&#8217;re asking; I&#8217;m not quite sure what you&#8217;re getting at.  If you&#8217;re asking whether the results of a previous experiment which gave 189 kmiles/s is &#8220;wrong&#8221;, given what we know now, I would say not exactly: in physics all experimental results have a degree of uncertainty.  189 kmiles/s is accurate to two significant figures, i.e. the &#8217;180&#8242; part of the estimate is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am curious; so can we say, 189,000 miles/sec is flawed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious; so can we say, 189,000 miles/sec is flawed?</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Al</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One loophole remains.  General Relativity and string theory assume isotropic vacuum and the Equivalence Principle (all local centers of mass vacuum free fall identically regardless of composition, hydrogen atoms to neutron stars).  Teleparallel gravitation wholly contains GR without isotropic vacuum or the EP.  GR might &lt;I&gt;detectably&lt;/I&gt; fail in the massed sector (but not in massless electromagetism).

Do chemically identical left and right shoes fall identically?  Teleparallel theory says &quot;no.&quot;  Spacetime torsion (replacing curvature) transforms like the Lorentz force in EM - it is chiral, a left foot.  Left and right shoes fit differently.  They have divergent minimum action vacuum free fall trajectories.

An Eötvös balance tests the EP to 3x10^(-14) difference/average,

http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/experiments/equivalencePrinciple/epWhat.html
http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/publications/pdf/schlamminger08.pdf
Composition, Phys. Rev. Lett. 100 041101 (2008) 
http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/publications/pdf/prl97-021603.pdf
Polarized angular momenta,  Phys. Rev. Lett. 97 021603 (2006)

Single crystal test masses of space group P3(1)21 alpha-quartz (right-handed crew axes) opposed by space group P3(2)21 alpha-quartz (left-handed crew axes) could deeply change physics.  Somebody should look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One loophole remains.  General Relativity and string theory assume isotropic vacuum and the Equivalence Principle (all local centers of mass vacuum free fall identically regardless of composition, hydrogen atoms to neutron stars).  Teleparallel gravitation wholly contains GR without isotropic vacuum or the EP.  GR might <i>detectably</i> fail in the massed sector (but not in massless electromagetism).</p>
<p>Do chemically identical left and right shoes fall identically?  Teleparallel theory says &#8220;no.&#8221;  Spacetime torsion (replacing curvature) transforms like the Lorentz force in EM &#8211; it is chiral, a left foot.  Left and right shoes fit differently.  They have divergent minimum action vacuum free fall trajectories.</p>
<p>An Eötvös balance tests the EP to 3&#215;10^(-14) difference/average,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/experiments/equivalencePrinciple/epWhat.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/experiments/equivalencePrinciple/epWhat.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/publications/pdf/schlamminger08.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/publications/pdf/schlamminger08.pdf</a><br />
Composition, Phys. Rev. Lett. 100 041101 (2008)<br />
<a href="http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/publications/pdf/prl97-021603.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/publications/pdf/prl97-021603.pdf</a><br />
Polarized angular momenta,  Phys. Rev. Lett. 97 021603 (2006)</p>
<p>Single crystal test masses of space group P3(1)21 alpha-quartz (right-handed crew axes) opposed by space group P3(2)21 alpha-quartz (left-handed crew axes) could deeply change physics.  Somebody should look.</p>
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