Comments on: The gallery of failed atomic models, 1903-1913

By: skullsinthestars

skullsinthestars — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 01:59:34 +0000

Very nice! Thanks for the link!

By: Charles Baily

Charles Baily — Fri, 03 Dec 2010 01:51:22 +0000

For anyone who might be interested, I wrote a paper for the 24th Regional Conference on the History and Philosophy of Science (2008) on essentially the same topic – I read many of the original papers discussed above as part of my research, and discuss them in some detail here:

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/EducationIssues/baily/papers/Atomic_Modeling.pdf

By: Jimbob anonamous

Jimbob anonamous — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:07:01 +0000

This was a big help thanx

By: skullsinthestars

skullsinthestars — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:26:19 +0000

Blake: Interesting! I’ll have to take a look at Ishiwara’s work…

By: Blake Stacey

Blake Stacey — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:49:55 +0000

I just found out about another mostly-forgotten figure from the early days of quantum physics: Jun Ishiwara.

By: skullsinthestars

skullsinthestars — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:33:06 +0000

I guess the natural question is: What do you find unsatisfying or unexplained in the past 100 years of atomic and nuclear physics to justify a search for an alternative model?

By: Franklin Hu

Franklin Hu — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:54:13 +0000

There are continuing attempts to redefine the atomic model by cranks and crackpot hobby scientists like myself. It is interesting that none of the models mentioned ever attempted to come up with a solid structured approach to an atomic model. See:

http://franklinhu.com/buildatm.htm

This model does account for the ionization and spectral data. This is part of my broader theories

http://franklinhu.com/theory.html

By: Science geek

Science geek — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:46:22 +0000

this is an easy way to find how atoms are different and how they can be defined different ways. I really liked the magnet one I never thought it would be that way.

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The other meaning of "dimension" and its use in physics | Phasing — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:21:08 +0000

[...] structure of the atom results in very specific frequencies of light being emitted by atoms; as you may have read somewhere, many researchers tried to use existing electromagnetic and mechanical theories to explain the [...]

By: John Cowan

John Cowan — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:31:34 +0000

Physicists would be wary of teaching “wrong models” too if there were a large multinational group of people committed to the truth of, say, post-Aristotelian impetus physics as a matter of religion, and who were convinced that if their children ever heard an unbiased report on Newton’s physics (never mind Einstein’s or Heisenberg’s or Wheeler’s) they would go straight to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

In any case, elementary biology does contain a discussion of Lamarckian inheritance, perhaps because it’s part of the folk theory of inheritance.