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		<title>By: skullsinthestars</title>
		<link>http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/08/05/the-discovery-rediscovery-and-re-rediscovery-of-computed-tomography/#comment-3811</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kieran:  Interesting!  I&#039;ve not seen Funk&#039;s paper, though it wouldn&#039;t surprise me that others had done similar things to Radon in the same era.  My experience, in looking through the history of science, is that many discoveries are inevitable, in the sense that multiple researchers start working towards the same goal independently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieran:  Interesting!  I&#8217;ve not seen Funk&#8217;s paper, though it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me that others had done similar things to Radon in the same era.  My experience, in looking through the history of science, is that many discoveries are inevitable, in the sense that multiple researchers start working towards the same goal independently.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran G. Larkin</title>
		<link>http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/08/05/the-discovery-rediscovery-and-re-rediscovery-of-computed-tomography/#comment-3797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kieran G. Larkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are good reasons to claim that Paul Funk pre-empted Radon with a 1916 publication:

Funk, P. (1916). &quot;Uber eine geometrische anwendung der abelschen integralgleichung.&quot; Math. Ann. 77(129-135).
	
Funk’s work is limited to integrals on great circles of the sphere.  Is this more evidence for Arnold&#039;s law:  Discoveries are rarely attributed to the correct person?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are good reasons to claim that Paul Funk pre-empted Radon with a 1916 publication:</p>
<p>Funk, P. (1916). &#8220;Uber eine geometrische anwendung der abelschen integralgleichung.&#8221; Math. Ann. 77(129-135).</p>
<p>Funk’s work is limited to integrals on great circles of the sphere.  Is this more evidence for Arnold&#8217;s law:  Discoveries are rarely attributed to the correct person?</p>
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		<title>By: skullsinthestars</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tercel: Thanks for the comment!  Least square solutions certainly play a big role in the theory of inverse problems in general, though it seems that the early CT work was done by, as I noted, brute force methods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tercel: Thanks for the comment!  Least square solutions certainly play a big role in the theory of inverse problems in general, though it seems that the early CT work was done by, as I noted, brute force methods.</p>
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		<title>By: Tercel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tercel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post! Ever since I discovered the inverse radon transform, I assumed that this was how a CT scan must work.

I&#039;d also like to mention that, as an engineer who does a lot of image processing, I suspect that real CT scan computations use some sort of least squares solution to the system of equations. I find this to be the most practical way of solving complex image transforms in the presence of noise and imperfections, where a real solution is often inconsistent.

2-D phase unwrapping, for example, doesn&#039;t really work when you have missing data points, but a weighted least squares solution is indistinguishable from perfect in most cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Ever since I discovered the inverse radon transform, I assumed that this was how a CT scan must work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to mention that, as an engineer who does a lot of image processing, I suspect that real CT scan computations use some sort of least squares solution to the system of equations. I find this to be the most practical way of solving complex image transforms in the presence of noise and imperfections, where a real solution is often inconsistent.</p>
<p>2-D phase unwrapping, for example, doesn&#8217;t really work when you have missing data points, but a weighted least squares solution is indistinguishable from perfect in most cases.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skullsinthestars</title>
		<link>http://skullsinthestars.com/2008/08/05/the-discovery-rediscovery-and-re-rediscovery-of-computed-tomography/#comment-2048</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trey:  To the best of my knowledge, for medical x-ray CT the linear system of equations works just fine.  Because of the high energy/short wavelength nature of the x-rays, and the relatively small refractive index contrasts of the human body at those wavelengths, the x-rays follow essentially straight-line paths through the body.  One can show, in fact, that linearized scattering reduces to the CT form in the limit of short wavelengths; see G. Gbur and E. Wolf, &quot;Relation between computed tomography and diffraction tomography&quot;, J. Opt. Soc. Am. A 18 (2001), 2132, for instance.

There are a couple of caveats:  

If a person has metal implants, the implants strongly scatter x-rays and ordinary CT won&#039;t work.  There are researchers actively seeking ways to account for this.  

Ordinary CT neglects phase changes of the x-rays on propagation through tissue, but this influence is still there and leads to propagation changes far enough downstream.  In recent years  such &#039;phase contrast tomography&#039; has become an important research topic.

You&#039;re right that most inverse scattering problems are nonlinear and require techniques which are quite involved.  CT is somewhat special because it uses high-energy photons (x-rays), which barrel through the body with little deviation.  Most inverse scattering theory since then seems to have involved trying to achieve similar success with photons at lower energies, where multiple scattering and diffraction effects are significant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trey:  To the best of my knowledge, for medical x-ray CT the linear system of equations works just fine.  Because of the high energy/short wavelength nature of the x-rays, and the relatively small refractive index contrasts of the human body at those wavelengths, the x-rays follow essentially straight-line paths through the body.  One can show, in fact, that linearized scattering reduces to the CT form in the limit of short wavelengths; see G. Gbur and E. Wolf, &#8220;Relation between computed tomography and diffraction tomography&#8221;, J. Opt. Soc. Am. A 18 (2001), 2132, for instance.</p>
<p>There are a couple of caveats:  </p>
<p>If a person has metal implants, the implants strongly scatter x-rays and ordinary CT won&#8217;t work.  There are researchers actively seeking ways to account for this.  </p>
<p>Ordinary CT neglects phase changes of the x-rays on propagation through tissue, but this influence is still there and leads to propagation changes far enough downstream.  In recent years  such &#8216;phase contrast tomography&#8217; has become an important research topic.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that most inverse scattering problems are nonlinear and require techniques which are quite involved.  CT is somewhat special because it uses high-energy photons (x-rays), which barrel through the body with little deviation.  Most inverse scattering theory since then seems to have involved trying to achieve similar success with photons at lower energies, where multiple scattering and diffraction effects are significant.</p>
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		<title>By: trey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice introduction to CT. Can you comment on how realistic this system of linear equations is? These equations assume  forward scattering and no diffraction (which would complicate the equations). 

I ask because the (nonlinear) inverse problems I have come across end up being formulated as an optimization (minimization) problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice introduction to CT. Can you comment on how realistic this system of linear equations is? These equations assume  forward scattering and no diffraction (which would complicate the equations). </p>
<p>I ask because the (nonlinear) inverse problems I have come across end up being formulated as an optimization (minimization) problem.</p>
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		<title>By: skullsinthestars</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wade and Thony C.:  A belated thanks for the comments, and compliments!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wade and Thony C.:  A belated thanks for the comments, and compliments!</p>
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		<title>By: Thony C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thony C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thanks for the translation!&quot; 

You&#039;re welcome, I&#039;ll send the bill at the end of the month! ;)

I&#039;ll just re-iterate what Mr Walker said and say thanks for some excellent post on scientific subjects. Living in a town that is one of the major centres in the world for CT production and being a historian of science myself I was fascinated by an obviously well researched and well-written piece on their origins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thanks for the translation!&#8221; </p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, I&#8217;ll send the bill at the end of the month! <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just re-iterate what Mr Walker said and say thanks for some excellent post on scientific subjects. Living in a town that is one of the major centres in the world for CT production and being a historian of science myself I was fascinated by an obviously well researched and well-written piece on their origins.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wade Walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post! This is exactly where science blogging shines most -- taking a difficult subject that laymen are nonetheless interested in, and giving a clear explanation in everyday terms.

Your posts do a great job of helping people understand that science isn&#039;t a magical thing done only by geniuses. It&#039;s a pragmatic activity done by real people for real, commonsense reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post! This is exactly where science blogging shines most &#8212; taking a difficult subject that laymen are nonetheless interested in, and giving a clear explanation in everyday terms.</p>
<p>Your posts do a great job of helping people understand that science isn&#8217;t a magical thing done only by geniuses. It&#8217;s a pragmatic activity done by real people for real, commonsense reasons.</p>
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